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	<title>Comments on: portable song IDs and music influencer networks</title>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2007/05/16/portable-song-ids-and-music-influencer-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 19:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To some extent you can consider a decentralized registry as a search problem.&quot;

Right. And, that&#039;s true with identity as well: to some extent, uniquely identifying something is a search problem.

This is a somehwat spacial way of looking at it, e.g., there&#039;s potentially a big space of information, and there&#039;s a question of how one locates information in that space.

There&#039;s also a temporal way of looking at it, which is: how can people get the information they need just in time. (Or, what are the implications / consequences of the time it takes to get needed information.)

There might be a cart before the horse issue with this topic in that it may make more sense to address the temporal aspect before the spacial.

For example, when are the right times for someone to have the opportunity to &quot;pay&quot; for a work of music; or when are the right times for a creator to ask for &quot;payment&quot;? (I put &quot;pay&quot; in quotes, because we might be talking about cash, or we might be talking about some form of trade, reputation, or other non-cash exchange.)

The non-free-market for music online has resulted in a situation where it&#039;s mostly faster to get music files than to get and process information on how to &quot;pay&quot; for the music. iTunes success is partially the result of reversing this situation within it&#039;s own centralized / contained information space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To some extent you can consider a decentralized registry as a search problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right. And, that&#8217;s true with identity as well: to some extent, uniquely identifying something is a search problem.</p>
<p>This is a somehwat spacial way of looking at it, e.g., there&#8217;s potentially a big space of information, and there&#8217;s a question of how one locates information in that space.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a temporal way of looking at it, which is: how can people get the information they need just in time. (Or, what are the implications / consequences of the time it takes to get needed information.)</p>
<p>There might be a cart before the horse issue with this topic in that it may make more sense to address the temporal aspect before the spacial.</p>
<p>For example, when are the right times for someone to have the opportunity to &#8220;pay&#8221; for a work of music; or when are the right times for a creator to ask for &#8220;payment&#8221;? (I put &#8220;pay&#8221; in quotes, because we might be talking about cash, or we might be talking about some form of trade, reputation, or other non-cash exchange.)</p>
<p>The non-free-market for music online has resulted in a situation where it&#8217;s mostly faster to get music files than to get and process information on how to &#8220;pay&#8221; for the music. iTunes success is partially the result of reversing this situation within it&#8217;s own centralized / contained information space.</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2007/05/16/portable-song-ids-and-music-influencer-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To some extent you can consider a decentralized registry as a search problem.  Normally the question that search engines try to answer is about finding web pages, but I think it could just as well be about finding song files associated with a query string.

...and that&#039;s why XSPF has this concept of content resolution as a query operation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To some extent you can consider a decentralized registry as a search problem.  Normally the question that search engines try to answer is about finding web pages, but I think it could just as well be about finding song files associated with a query string.</p>
<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s why XSPF has this concept of content resolution as a query operation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2007/05/16/portable-song-ids-and-music-influencer-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is vastly more music released, that could be part of an online music marketplace, than any central system can track.

I think a robust system would combine multiple central registries with overlapping data, and some very Internet-like distributed identifier mechanism, e.g., DNS-based URIs (aka web URLs) that individuals can create themselves to identify their works.

For example, a central service could create a digital works registry that takes URLs as input. Those URLs could then be used as IDs embedded in media files, etc. And, the central service could be queried with other identifying info, e.g., a sound fingerprint, to retrieve the URLs when they get misplaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is vastly more music released, that could be part of an online music marketplace, than any central system can track.</p>
<p>I think a robust system would combine multiple central registries with overlapping data, and some very Internet-like distributed identifier mechanism, e.g., DNS-based URIs (aka web URLs) that individuals can create themselves to identify their works.</p>
<p>For example, a central service could create a digital works registry that takes URLs as input. Those URLs could then be used as IDs embedded in media files, etc. And, the central service could be queried with other identifying info, e.g., a sound fingerprint, to retrieve the URLs when they get misplaced.</p>
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		<title>By: George Hotelling</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2007/05/16/portable-song-ids-and-music-influencer-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>George Hotelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The music stores I&#039;ve dealt with accept &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_resources/isrc_faq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ISRC&lt;/a&gt;s as unique IDs.  Unfortunately, ISRC is a centrally regulated system that is geared towards the existing music industry (the US ISRC contact appears to be an RIAA employee).  I don&#039;t know how hard it would be to set up a free ISRC assignment service for independent artists (dyndns for music) but that seems like a more commercially adopted solution than MusicBrainz IDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The music stores I&#8217;ve dealt with accept <a href="http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_resources/isrc_faq.html" rel="nofollow">ISRC</a>s as unique IDs.  Unfortunately, ISRC is a centrally regulated system that is geared towards the existing music industry (the US ISRC contact appears to be an RIAA employee).  I don&#8217;t know how hard it would be to set up a free ISRC assignment service for independent artists (dyndns for music) but that seems like a more commercially adopted solution than MusicBrainz IDs.</p>
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