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	<title>Comments on: netlabels and webcasting contrasted with on-demand</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Net Native&#8221; music &#38; the expanison of the Open Source paradigm &#171; Electronic Drum</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/comment-page-1/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Net Native&#8221; music &#38; the expanison of the Open Source paradigm &#171; Electronic Drum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lucas Gonze: Now consider that internet music businesses have to compete for investment capital with internet businesses that don’t pay royalties. Craigslist, Google search, and Twitter do nothing but move bits around! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Empowering economics of &#8216;net native&#8217; music - Creative Commons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Empowering economics of &#8216;net native&#8217; music - Creative Commons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lucas&#160;Gonze: Now consider that internet music businesses have to compete for investment capital with internet businesses that don’t pay royalties. Craigslist, Google search, and Twitter do nothing but move bits&#160;around! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lucas&nbsp;Gonze: Now consider that internet music businesses have to compete for investment capital with internet businesses that don’t pay royalties. Craigslist, Google search, and Twitter do nothing but move bits&nbsp;around! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.

The record industry doesn&#039;t look like that any longer--at least parts of it once did (and, some very tiny parts still do).

* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.

Ultimately, musicians who see things this way meet up with business-savvy folks who also see things this way, and the nature of their business and its successes look different than the record industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.</p>
<p>The record industry doesn&#8217;t look like that any longer&#8211;at least parts of it once did (and, some very tiny parts still do).</p>
<p>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.</p>
<p>Ultimately, musicians who see things this way meet up with business-savvy folks who also see things this way, and the nature of their business and its successes look different than the record industry.</p>
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		<title>By: gurdonark</title>
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		<dc:creator>gurdonark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Victor&#039;s points.

I also hope that traditional &quot;business types&quot; will continue to see net-native music as a &quot;joke&quot;, because this will permit a new generation of more savvy businesses to arise which are not encumbered by the payola of the past.

I am all for people being able to monetize their creative output--I agree that it&#039;s not an &quot;if&quot; but a &quot;when&quot;. The fact that current revenue models are broken and poorly handled by the record industry doesn&#039;t change the fact that it&#039;s inevitable that a set of net-native artists will succeed-and then everything will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Victor&#8217;s points.</p>
<p>I also hope that traditional &#8220;business types&#8221; will continue to see net-native music as a &#8220;joke&#8221;, because this will permit a new generation of more savvy businesses to arise which are not encumbered by the payola of the past.</p>
<p>I am all for people being able to monetize their creative output&#8211;I agree that it&#8217;s not an &#8220;if&#8221; but a &#8220;when&#8221;. The fact that current revenue models are broken and poorly handled by the record industry doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s inevitable that a set of net-native artists will succeed-and then everything will change.</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe not at that scale, but definitely at that level of profitability.&lt;/i&gt;

Does anybody, anywhere doubt that at some point

1) a &#039;net native&#039; artist will actual break. iow, do we really think Brad Sucks has hit the ceiling?

2) when that artist breaks without any &quot;industry&quot; juice, not even sxsw, the margins will be ginormous, the flood gates will open.

These things are stupendously obvious things to me. Does anybody out there question these certainties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maybe not at that scale, but definitely at that level of profitability.</i></p>
<p>Does anybody, anywhere doubt that at some point</p>
<p>1) a &#8216;net native&#8217; artist will actual break. iow, do we really think Brad Sucks has hit the ceiling?</p>
<p>2) when that artist breaks without any &#8220;industry&#8221; juice, not even sxsw, the margins will be ginormous, the flood gates will open.</p>
<p>These things are stupendously obvious things to me. Does anybody out there question these certainties?</p>
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		<title>By: davidporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the references, Lucas!  I think you&#039;re spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the references, Lucas!  I think you&#8217;re spot on.</p>
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