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	<title>Comments on: netlabels and webcasting contrasted with on-demand</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Net Native&#8221; music &#38; the expanison of the Open Source paradigm &#171; Electronic Drum</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Net Native&#8221; music &#38; the expanison of the Open Source paradigm &#171; Electronic Drum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lucas Gonze: Now consider that internet music businesses have to compete for investment capital with internet businesses that don’t pay royalties. Craigslist, Google search, and Twitter do nothing but move bits around! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Empowering economics of &#8216;net native&#8217; music - Creative Commons</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Empowering economics of &#8216;net native&#8217; music - Creative Commons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lucas&#160;Gonze: Now consider that internet music businesses have to compete for investment capital with internet businesses that don’t pay royalties. Craigslist, Google search, and Twitter do nothing but move bits&#160;around! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jay Fienberg</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fienberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.

The record industry doesn't look like that any longer--at least parts of it once did (and, some very tiny parts still do).

* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.

Ultimately, musicians who see things this way meet up with business-savvy folks who also see things this way, and the nature of their business and its successes look different than the record industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.</p>
<p>The record industry doesn&#8217;t look like that any longer&#8211;at least parts of it once did (and, some very tiny parts still do).</p>
<p>* Music primary, business secondary and only when necessary.</p>
<p>Ultimately, musicians who see things this way meet up with business-savvy folks who also see things this way, and the nature of their business and its successes look different than the record industry.</p>
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		<title>By: gurdonark</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-621</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Victor's points.

I also hope that traditional "business types" will continue to see net-native music as a "joke", because this will permit a new generation of more savvy businesses to arise which are not encumbered by the payola of the past.

I am all for people being able to monetize their creative output--I agree that it's not an "if" but a "when". The fact that current revenue models are broken and poorly handled by the record industry doesn't change the fact that it's inevitable that a set of net-native artists will succeed-and then everything will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Victor&#8217;s points.</p>
<p>I also hope that traditional &#8220;business types&#8221; will continue to see net-native music as a &#8220;joke&#8221;, because this will permit a new generation of more savvy businesses to arise which are not encumbered by the payola of the past.</p>
<p>I am all for people being able to monetize their creative output&#8211;I agree that it&#8217;s not an &#8220;if&#8221; but a &#8220;when&#8221;. The fact that current revenue models are broken and poorly handled by the record industry doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it&#8217;s inevitable that a set of net-native artists will succeed-and then everything will change.</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Maybe not at that scale, but definitely at that level of profitability.&lt;/i&gt;

Does anybody, anywhere doubt that at some point

1) a 'net native' artist will actual break. iow, do we really think Brad Sucks has hit the ceiling?

2) when that artist breaks without any "industry" juice, not even sxsw, the margins will be ginormous, the flood gates will open.

These things are stupendously obvious things to me. Does anybody out there question these certainties?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Maybe not at that scale, but definitely at that level of profitability.</i></p>
<p>Does anybody, anywhere doubt that at some point</p>
<p>1) a &#8216;net native&#8217; artist will actual break. iow, do we really think Brad Sucks has hit the ceiling?</p>
<p>2) when that artist breaks without any &#8220;industry&#8221; juice, not even sxsw, the margins will be ginormous, the flood gates will open.</p>
<p>These things are stupendously obvious things to me. Does anybody out there question these certainties?</p>
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		<title>By: davidporter</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2008/07/14/netlabels-and-webcasting-contrasted-with-on-demand/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>davidporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the references, Lucas!  I think you're spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the references, Lucas!  I think you&#8217;re spot on.</p>
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