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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3657</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is some kind of public cry-for-help thing (?) Are we all supposed to gather around Stan and do some kind of maturity intervention...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is some kind of public cry-for-help thing (?) Are we all supposed to gather around Stan and do some kind of maturity intervention&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Gonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3656</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Gonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, though, Stan, if you want to talk about infringement then you need to have something to say.  You can&#039;t just get up on a soapbox and call people&#039;s attention and then clear your throat and look vacant.  Is that really the best you have to offer on the topic of infringement and Grooveshark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, though, Stan, if you want to talk about infringement then you need to have something to say.  You can&#8217;t just get up on a soapbox and call people&#8217;s attention and then clear your throat and look vacant.  Is that really the best you have to offer on the topic of infringement and Grooveshark?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Gonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3655</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Gonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan,

You so almost have a clue.  Your resemblance to a non-tard is close.  Your ability to follow the conversation is nearly adequate.

regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>You so almost have a clue.  Your resemblance to a non-tard is close.  Your ability to follow the conversation is nearly adequate.</p>
<p>regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Rodgers</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3654</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucas,

You are annoying. The point of GS is to share music, not give attribution to everyone who shares a song. The bigger issue concerns the copyright holder---who rightfully deserves to get paid. I can&#039;t even believe your only contribution to this debate is that the person who uploaded the song should get recognition. The jackass who uploaded the song probably free-loaded it off an illegal network anyway. I can&#039;t stand Internet losers like you who put up these pathetic blogs claiming to cover &quot;internet music technology since ~2002&quot; and all you do is spout out random thoughts and opinions you most likely stole in the first place. And to top it off you get the whole argument wrong. Get a life and quit clogging up the intertubes with this garbage.

-Stan Rodgers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas,</p>
<p>You are annoying. The point of GS is to share music, not give attribution to everyone who shares a song. The bigger issue concerns the copyright holder&#8212;who rightfully deserves to get paid. I can&#8217;t even believe your only contribution to this debate is that the person who uploaded the song should get recognition. The jackass who uploaded the song probably free-loaded it off an illegal network anyway. I can&#8217;t stand Internet losers like you who put up these pathetic blogs claiming to cover &#8220;internet music technology since ~2002&#8243; and all you do is spout out random thoughts and opinions you most likely stole in the first place. And to top it off you get the whole argument wrong. Get a life and quit clogging up the intertubes with this garbage.</p>
<p>-Stan Rodgers</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an unfair comment.  Either Grooveshark owes attribution to link sources or they don&#039;t, and they simply don&#039;t. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an unfair comment.  Either Grooveshark owes attribution to link sources or they don&#039;t, and they simply don&#039;t.</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3540</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if somebody uploads a song, do you give attribution to the uploader?  I can&#039;t find that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if somebody uploads a song, do you give attribution to the uploader?  I can&#039;t find that.</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3539</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this Hypebot story is inaccurate, Ben? 
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/06/more-major-label-vs-startup-emi-sues-grooveshark.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/06/more-major...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
&quot;Playable search engines like Grooveshark host no music, but rather grab it for play Google-like from across the web. Downloading is not enabled and unlike after a Google search, the location of the song files are never revealed.&quot; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this Hypebot story is inaccurate, Ben? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/06/more-major-label-vs-startup-emi-sues-grooveshark.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/06/more-major.." rel="nofollow">http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2009/06/more-major..</a>. </p>
<p>&quot;Playable search engines like Grooveshark host no music, but rather grab it for play Google-like from across the web. Downloading is not enabled and unlike after a Google search, the location of the song files are never revealed.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: lucasgonze</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3537</link>
		<dc:creator>lucasgonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IntenseDebate Notifications wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&gt;   *This comment requires moderation*&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Ben commented on groove shark &lt;br /&gt;&gt;  - Lucas Gonze&#039;s blog &lt;br /&gt;&gt; :&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Hey Lucas,&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; I work here at Grooveshark and I just wanted to clear up some &lt;br /&gt;&gt; confusion--though Grooveshark and Seeqpod seem similar, we don&#039;t really &lt;br /&gt;&gt; work the same way. The content you see on Grooveshark doesn&#039;t come from &lt;br /&gt;&gt; externally-hosted MP3 or remote link. Like Youtube, all the songs on &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Grooveshark are uploaded directly from our users to a server, and we &lt;br /&gt;&gt; just index for searching.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; If we *were* spidering content from third-party sites, I can definitely &lt;br /&gt;&gt; understand being a little perturbed (or downright pissed off) that &lt;br /&gt;&gt; there&#039;s no attribution. That&#039;s just not cool, and any site providing &lt;br /&gt;&gt; bandwidth/content/help to the web should definitely get the credit they &lt;br /&gt;&gt; deserve.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Anyway, sorry for the confusion/lack of info on our end, Lucas, and if &lt;br /&gt;&gt; you have absolutely any questions/tips/just want to chat, well, we&#039;re &lt;br /&gt;&gt; now friends on Twitter!&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Ben+Grooveshark&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/grooveshark&lt;br&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/grooveshark&lt;br&lt;/a&gt; /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Email: ben@grooveshark.com &lt;br /&gt;&gt; Site/Blog URL: &lt;a href=&quot;http://grooveshark.com&lt;br&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://grooveshark.com&lt;br&lt;/a&gt; /&gt;&gt; IP address: 209.251.128.198&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Go to comment &lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; - - -&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Reply to this email to post a response to this comment.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Reply with the word *approve*, *deny*, or *spam* to moderate this comment.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Please leave the original message intact. Just type your reply, hit send &lt;br /&gt;&gt; and you&#039;re all set.&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Get a lot of comments? Click here to bulk moderate. &lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; - - -&lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&gt; This email was sent by IntenseDebate , the &lt;br /&gt;&gt; world&#039;s premier commenting system. Unsubscribe &lt;br /&gt;&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Approve </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IntenseDebate Notifications wrote:<br />&gt;   *This comment requires moderation*<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Ben commented on groove shark <br />&gt;  &#8211; Lucas Gonze&#039;s blog <br />&gt; :<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Hey Lucas,<br />&gt; <br />&gt; I work here at Grooveshark and I just wanted to clear up some <br />&gt; confusion&#8211;though Grooveshark and Seeqpod seem similar, we don&#039;t really <br />&gt; work the same way. The content you see on Grooveshark doesn&#039;t come from <br />&gt; externally-hosted MP3 or remote link. Like Youtube, all the songs on <br />&gt; Grooveshark are uploaded directly from our users to a server, and we <br />&gt; just index for searching.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; If we *were* spidering content from third-party sites, I can definitely <br />&gt; understand being a little perturbed (or downright pissed off) that <br />&gt; there&#039;s no attribution. That&#039;s just not cool, and any site providing <br />&gt; bandwidth/content/help to the web should definitely get the credit they <br />&gt; deserve.<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Anyway, sorry for the confusion/lack of info on our end, Lucas, and if <br />&gt; you have absolutely any questions/tips/just want to chat, well, we&#039;re <br />&gt; now friends on Twitter!<br />&gt; <br />&gt; Thanks,<br />&gt; Ben+Grooveshark<br />&gt; <a href="http://twitter.com/grooveshark<br" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://twitter.com/grooveshark" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/grooveshark</a><br </a/> />&gt; <br />&gt; Email: <a href="mailto:ben@grooveshark.com">ben@grooveshark.com</a> <br />&gt; Site/Blog URL: <a href="http://grooveshark.com<br" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://grooveshark.com" rel="nofollow">http://grooveshark.com</a><br </a/> />&gt; IP address: 209.251.128.198<br />&gt; Go to comment <br />&gt; <br />&gt; &#8211; - -<br />&gt; Reply to this email to post a response to this comment.<br />&gt; Reply with the word *approve*, *deny*, or *spam* to moderate this comment.<br />&gt; Please leave the original message intact. Just type your reply, hit send <br />&gt; and you&#039;re all set.<br />&gt; Get a lot of comments? Click here to bulk moderate. <br />&gt; <br />&gt; <br />&gt; &#8211; - -<br />&gt; <br />&gt; This email was sent by IntenseDebate , the <br />&gt; world&#039;s premier commenting system. Unsubscribe <br />&gt; </p>
<p>Approve</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lucas, 
 
I work here at Grooveshark and I just wanted to clear up some confusion--though Grooveshark and Seeqpod seem similar, we don&#039;t really work the same way. The content you see on Grooveshark doesn&#039;t come from externally-hosted MP3 or remote link. Like Youtube, all the songs on Grooveshark are uploaded directly from our users to a server, and we just index for searching.  
 
If we *were* spidering content from third-party sites, I can definitely understand being a little perturbed (or downright pissed off) that there&#039;s no attribution. That&#039;s just not cool, and any site providing bandwidth/content/help to the web should definitely get the credit they deserve. 
 
Anyway, sorry for the confusion/lack of info on our end, Lucas, and if you have absolutely any questions/tips/just want to chat, well, we&#039;re now friends on Twitter!  
 
Thanks, 
Ben+Grooveshark 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/grooveshark&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/grooveshark&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lucas, </p>
<p>I work here at Grooveshark and I just wanted to clear up some confusion&#8211;though Grooveshark and Seeqpod seem similar, we don&#039;t really work the same way. The content you see on Grooveshark doesn&#039;t come from externally-hosted MP3 or remote link. Like Youtube, all the songs on Grooveshark are uploaded directly from our users to a server, and we just index for searching.  </p>
<p>If we *were* spidering content from third-party sites, I can definitely understand being a little perturbed (or downright pissed off) that there&#039;s no attribution. That&#039;s just not cool, and any site providing bandwidth/content/help to the web should definitely get the credit they deserve. </p>
<p>Anyway, sorry for the confusion/lack of info on our end, Lucas, and if you have absolutely any questions/tips/just want to chat, well, we&#039;re now friends on Twitter!  </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Ben+Grooveshark<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/grooveshark" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/grooveshark</a></p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://gonze.com/blog/2009/06/19/groove-shark/comment-page-1/#comment-3531</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed - links to sources should always be provided regardless. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed &#8211; links to sources should always be provided regardless.</p>
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